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PostSubject: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:19 pm

Hi! If you want to discuss tonight's episode of The Vampire Diaries, please do so here.

Spoilers are welcome, and no need to be blocked off, so if you don't want any spoilers please read no further than this post.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:20 am

Well, I didn't get to watch the show live today, so I just got around to watching. Let me just say, it was a really good episode, better than last weeks.

Connor is bad ass, but I don't like him. Which is good! He definitely brings something different to the show.

Stelena woods scene, was kinda sexy...well, until you know...

I loved Damon in this episode, not sure why him coming into the church was funny to me lol. I have to say that the Delena scene in the bathroom, was not sexy at all to me. It was just weird and kind of awkward IMO.

Bonnie, hmm, I actually liked the scene where Stefan came to her house and how they hugged and she cried, it was sweet.

April seems sketchy. Jeremy looked really good! Tyler is pretty awesome, as is Matt for letting Elena feed from him.

The lantern scene was really cool, it made me sad. Damon and Alaric made me cry Embarassed

Oh yea, the hell is up with Jeremy??!! And Connor is bad ass really, he still sitting around knowing that the vamps are out to get him?

Umm, that's all I can think of for right now. I'm really excited to learn more about the mythology this season.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:27 am

Oh I so agree with you Kray this was much better than last week and I really did like last weeks for the most part.

Elena and Caroline- When Caroline kind of talked Elena of the edge sort of speak. I thought this was a real nice moment for these two. My wish had been that they would rally for Bonnie but that is ok. I have a feeling there will be more Elena/Bonnie, Bonnie/Caroline scenes futher down the rode. I think the big reason I like this scene was because when Elena compelled April and looked back at Caroline I feel like Elena got a little bit stronger in that moment.

Elena and Stefan/ Elena and Damon: The Stelena was cute... until she starting throwing up lol. It kind of reminded me of Twilight so it I wasn't that taken with it. However as far as Stelena goes... it was one of the nice moments to see. Stefan taking on the role of teacher and lover. Delena was kind of hot, I mean he was all into her drinking from him, but I have a feeling that this is going to be a big reason Stelena takes a nose-dive this season. We all know what happens when supernaturals start sharing blood lol.

Caroline and Tyler: I was laughing so hard when I watched these two having "Grief sex" as Tyler put it. Forwood always puts a smile on my face and I know that their storyline really has a lot of Klaus mix in it... I feel like that these two will add some much needed comedy from time to time... and i like it Tyler literally taking the bullet for the “team” loved it. Tyler has come such a long way… I really hope to see more then just comedy and sex scenes from Micheal this season because he is capably of so much more.

Last but not least Stefonnie, Bamon and Beremy oh my!: I know that these moments were not a lot but I have to say that I was loving it even. To have so many Bonnie ships in one episode , I had to pinch myself I couldn't believe it. I am a Bamon shipper all the way, but I couldn’t help but smile at the yearning stare from Jeremy. The tenderness and compassion of Stefan and the straight up badassness of Bamon. It make me sad that I won’t see much of Bonnie next episode so here is hoping the Bamon in episode four makes up for it.


My MVP(s) Will be going to Ian, Kat and Paul.

KAT: Keep on shinning!
Kat was once again amazing. Last week I loved the realness that she was bring and this week it is the same feeling. As much as I wish Bonnie would give everyone a big F-you to them all, she is just not there yet. However the fact that she took a step away from everyone and just spent time alone I think shows that she has the ability to do so. We are just not there yet. However I can’t help but love Bonnie for wanting to help. Stefan could see that she was in a bad place and still Bonnie was there for her friends. I can help but love her for that, Bonnie is the kind of friend you want to keep around. I said it last week and I will say it again Kat will be one to watch this season, if they keep giving her these great emotional scenes( not just sad ones) I think people will start singing a different tune about Bonnie… I know some of my hard core DE friends already have Very Happy

Paul: Is Realness
I love Paul, acting wish I think he is so amazing. I feel bad that people are just hating on him this season. Some big moments I loved was his scene with Kat. When ever these two are in a scene together I love it because the chemistry is so great. Tonight was no exception, when Bonnie opens the door and he can see how upset she is… his first instinct is too comfort her. Even with the barrier up he went to her. Paul has a gift when it come to showing these great emotions, sometimes for other actors I feel like it is hit or miss. With Paul it is a hit every time, and I will forever love him for that. The other scene I like is when he called them all together, Stefan stepping up as a leader for this group could be kind of interesting to see. What I like about it so much was the fact that he was so confident and he was right. They need to grief, yes there were things that needed to be done but he made it a point to say… Stop, lets take a minute to look back to say are piece and than move on with these new lives we have been given. I don’t know what I would do if there was no more Paul on the TVD.

Ian: The Realist

Love Damon this episode, the snark comeback. The crazy eyebrow poses. Damon was the damon I knew and loved. However, the talk he had with Alaric… oh man I got a little teary eyed. We all know Damon is not the crier, he very rarely shows his emotions to anyone. That scene I thought was played very well by Ian. As he said, he didn’t get the girl and now he was stuck baby-sitting. I loved how he said what I think many of us have been thinking… that these are just children. There is so much for them to still come to learn about the world and the people they are becoming. I think what hit me the most was that Damon is alone, and he is wondering if his place is really in mystic falls.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:34 pm

Overall, great episode. Just a few points:

Elena feeding on Bambi? Weird. Elena feeding on Matt? Predictable, but who cares. Same for Team Badass. That's the kind of fanservice I'll take anytime.

Why do they keep repeating that everything is heightened like hundred times? We get it.

I'm pleased that they listened and addressed the lack of grieving time.

Does anyone else think that April might have faked being compelled and be on vervain?

Elena did lie to Stefan, but considering she really didn't want to hurt him, when you heighten that, I'll take it.

Definitely think that the fact, that she's a doppelganger will yet play its role. Maybe that's when Katherine comes in?

Regarding the Elena feeding on Damon situation, I guess it's better Stefan found out sooner than later.

I was surprised that I kind of liked Connor. Dude's got a game going on.

Also nice moment when Tyler took the bullet.

I didn't mind SE or DE. Enjoyed both.

Bonnie. bounce The way she said: "Hmm, it's a bad timing." was awesome.


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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:49 pm

literally just finished the episode, still crying over that dalaric scene at the end Sad

LOVED the episode! really disliking this Connor guy, what's he doing shooting Tyler Evil or Very Mad

poor Tyler in this episode, getting shot about 20 times then staked? thought it was really cute how he took one for the team though Smile does that mean that he can't be seen in public again? or will they pretend that he survived... idk, i loved him in this episode though I love youI love youI love youI love youI love you

poor Elena aswell, she was having a rough time and i really don't get why Stefan was so cheery.. was horrible when she was sick though silent

MATT, SO HAPPY FOR HIM. aw how cute was that scene when Elena was drinking from him? Zach Roerig kept hinting that Elena would drink from Matt but i thought it would be all creepy, but i officially love Matt after that bounce

I didn't really like Stefan or Damon in this episode but i did laugh at a lot of Damon's comments! I thought it was really cute how he wouldn't let anyone sit in Alaric's seat, and the scene at the end. Oh the scene at the end. Well done Julie Plec. You had me crying from how beautiful it was Sad

I LOVE Jeremy and Matt's bromance, them and Dalaric are my favourite bromances. They always make eachother smile even with all the shit thats going on. I hope their bromance lasts, please let it last? Suspect

episode was better than last weeks BY FAR. hope all this seasons episodes are like this one Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

i think i liked it so much because there was no originals in it? i think so Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:46 pm

I really liked this episode.

I thought the Delena scene was hot. Like, really, really hot. But it bothered me, because I felt like Elena was cheating on Stefan. I'm not particularly against Delena, but I don't like the idea of Damon and Elena sneaking around behind Stefan's back. He deserves better than that. And in general, why the heck is she going to Damon asking for help? She's with Stefan. She should be able to talk to him about her issues.

The Stefan/Bonnie scene broke my heart a little. Not so much because he tried to comfort her (although that was touching), but because she knew that he came by because he needed a favor. It's like even Bonnie knows that her friends only ever talk to her when they need her help.

This new girl, April, is quite likeable, but do we really need writers introducing all those new characters?

Connor, on the other hand, needs to stay. I've been wishing for a new villain, someone who'd actually be scary, and Connor seems to be it. He's so ruthless. Looking forward to seeing more of him. But, he'll probably get killed in a couple episodes! Rolling Eyes

Tyler has come a long way since season 1. He's turned into such an amazing guy.

The end scene was great. I'm glad Damon didn't partake in the lantern ceremony. Not only because that would have been out of character for him (he doesn't do mushy), but also because he did kill a lot of those people they were honoring. And yes, I did cry when Alaric said: "I miss you too, Buddy." Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:49 pm

Yeah, when they were naming the people...Zack, Lexi, Vicki...I was like oops Damon's gotta feel pretty awkward right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:17 pm

pivoe wrote:
Yeah, when they were naming the people...Zack, Lexi, Vicki...I was like oops Damon's gotta feel pretty awkward right now.

Yeah he had to feel a bit awkward hearing the names of the people he killed lol

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm

I don't know if April was on vervain, but I definitely think something was up with her.

I hate and love Connor at the same time, that's how I like my villains. Badass to the core, I'm sure he will die but I definitely think he is a bit more than human. The weird tattoo, that only Jeremy saw? I can't wait to find out about what's happening with Jeremy.

I don't think Elena not being able to keep blood down has anything to do with being a doppleganger, cause as we know Katherine doesn't appear to have any issues with blood unless it was something she had to learn to control over time? I really think it has more to do with her compassion and guilt, she feels bad about it. Like she said all the deaths and everything are partly her fault just for really being born. I think she is afraid of people dying so she can live, like TVD drilled into our heads last night, her emotions are heightened. I think she will in time have to learn to control it. I think that is a part of the reason Damon teaches her the snatch, eat, heal method in 4.04 so that she will learn control and can feed without having anyone to be hurt. Either that or she has to feed directly from the source, because Matt's blood didn't make her sick did it? I don't know it's pretty weird.

I can't say enough how much I loved Damon, Matt, and Tyler in this episode.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:55 pm

When Damon walked in the church...LOL. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:15 pm

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When Damon walked in the church...LOL. Laughing

Haha yes, I laughed so hard.
Also laughed at his: "Damon. Germaphobe." line. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:50 pm

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When Damon walked in the church...LOL. Laughing
What happened when he walked into the church? Think I missed that bit haha!

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:08 pm

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LMAO Damon was so funny in this episode, I love it when his all snarky lol

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:21 pm

Right, it was so funny. He was so good in this episode.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:33 pm

Very interesting, gosh what does it all mean ughh
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:50 pm

I really want to know what this will all mean for Jeremy... I mean I knew he was going to be a vampire hunter but I wonder what the tattoo means and when will he get one Very Happy

Also I heard that April is intended to be Matt's love intrest not Jeremy? anyone else hear that ?

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:26 am

I heard that too, not sure where the source is from, but how old is April? If Elena used to babysit her? I kinda hope she isn't there for Jeremy, because I been feeling Beremy since the premiere a little bit Embarassed

I have to see more from her though cause I'm not sure how I feel about her yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:42 am

Omggggg I just finished watching the show, I cried like a baby at the end.. Sad Damon is so cute.. Sticking around to take care of the kids haha.. ! I love the part where the vampire hunter introduces himself and he's like: Damon, Germophobe hahaha. Laughing

I guess it was a pretty nice episode for Delena fans, it was really interesting how Elena went to Damon when she felt things going wrong with her transformation..and you could feel just how much it meant to him to be there for her.. I thought it was really cute Stefan's idea..wow, he's such a romantic to think of lighting lanterns hehe.. Made me laugh so hard, Ian's face when he says, 'New's flash, we're not Japanese' hahahaha.

I really enjoyed Nina's acting..I thought she did a good job, I really felt her pain in the end when she started crying in front of Stefan. She really managed to make it feel authentic and I still feel shook up (just just finished watching it), so hopefully this post is legible hehe.. Razz And wooow has anyone noticed that Jeremy has lost the most people? And he's the youngest, poor kid.. Sad

Anyway, I found it really touching, when we understood why Damon is staying, even though he didn't get the girl as he said. Because despite the pain of not getting Elena, he loves her, he loves his brother, and he's sticking around to protect them. For some reason, I found Damon especially hot in this episode and bad-ass.. I really enjoyed watching his character on screen.. Very Happy Anyway, ya, hope this post makes some sense ha! Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:50 am

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literally just finished the episode, still crying over that dalaric scene at the end Sad

LOVED the episode! really disliking this Connor guy, what's he doing shooting Tyler Evil or Very Mad

I thought it was really cute how he wouldn't let anyone sit in Alaric's seat, and the scene at the end. Oh the scene at the end. Well done Julie Plec. You had me crying from how beautiful it was Sad

episode was better than last weeks BY FAR. hope all this seasons episodes are like this one Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

i think i liked it so much because there was no originals in it? i think so Wink

YAAAY so glad I wasn't the only one all shaken up and crying from the Dalaric scene, sooo touching.. Sad Wow I'm really slow though, I didn't understand why he was not letting anyone on that seat? Now that I know, that's soooo sweet.. I love you I love you

HAHA I'm wondering the same thing, must be the lack of originals that made it better!! And ya..Tyler was totally awesome, getting shot twice like that..Tyler rocks Razz cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:17 pm

pivoe wrote:
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:30 pm

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I heard that too, not sure where the source is from, but how old is April? If Elena used to babysit her? I kinda hope she isn't there for Jeremy, because I been feeling Beremy since the premiere a little bit Embarassed

I have to see more from her though cause I'm not sure how I feel about her yet.

Either way she would be young for Matt too lol.

I know how you feel about the Beremy feelings, I was never huge on them because I thought he wasn't good enough and he proved me right. However now with the vampire hunter thing going on and the looks he's been giving Bonnie... IDK I think I might like seeing what happens with these two.

I'm shocked because it looks like the writers are not just going to throw them back together, which is great because there is way to much they would have to talk about first. Still I would like to see what happens with Shane as well.


As for April it seems like the fandom as a whole has the same feelings. There either don't like her or think something is up with her. However for the most part they are waiting to see what happens. I have a feeling she isn't going to be around very long. No

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:43 am

There's just something about April, something you just can't put your finger on... What if she's the next evil Alaric? Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4.02 [Memorial]   Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:02 pm

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There's just something about April, something you just can't put your finger on... What if she's the next evil Alaric? Shocked

the have Connor... but you are right there is something about this girl that just doesn't sit well with me lol

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