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PostSubject: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:17 am

It's prom time in Mystic Falls. Discuss the highly anticipate prom episode, "Pictures of You" on tonight's all new episode of The Vampire Diaries.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:18 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:28 pm

33 minutes!

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:11 pm

This episode was good. I loved every single piece of Bonnie yumminess.

Can I say, Congrats to the Prom Queen!
She kicked Elena's ass. I have been waiting for someone to put that wannabe in her place for a while now.
But what I really want to talk about is how Bonnie healed herself! Did anyone else see that?? She is so bad ass. I loved it. Seriously.
I didn't get Bamon but the other Bonnie stuff more than made up for it.

Forwood! Love my babies. But was it me or was it a bit off? I missed when he first saw her. But during that dance, it was a bit awkward to me.

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I liked the Klaroline scene. I knew I would regret feeling this way. And I did, when Klaus came to put Tyler in his place. This is why I can't with Klaus. Like grow the fork up, dude. You are too old to be so got damn childish.

I really thought that SE dance was hot.

Why didn't Matt just let April die??

Poor Rebekah! Felt so bad for her. Matt was such a dick to her, but he had every reason to be TBH. I was glad he got to see her in a different way, too bad it is when she will be leaving and we can't get Mabekah now.

Silas. Is it bad that I felt sorry for him at the end? Qetsiyah really screwed him over. Ouch.

All in all. Episode was good. Gonna go rewatch because I missed a couple scenes.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:25 am

I loved this episode Bonnie is so awesome.Im glad she put Elena in her place she deserved it,I can't believe she had the nerve to try to kill Bonnie,Especially after Bonnie has saved her ass countless times.I bet all the pain Elena and the others has caused Bonnie over the years just came rushing out at that point.

Also i feel really bad for Rebekah poor thing can never be happy.A part of me does want her to have the cure and become human.Have a family,grow old,and be happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:27 pm

I am so disappointed with that episode. I really didnt like it Sad

Elena stealing Carolines dress was pretty funny. I have to say that she suited it more than Caroline though Smile

I liked the matt/rebekah scenes, well the later ones. I thought matt was being a dick to her but then i remembered that she killed elena and i could see why haha!

Bonnie was pretty cool in this one, the only thing im confused about is why as soon as she saw Jeremy she didnt think it was silas straight away. I know shes upset about him dying but bonnie wouldnt normally fall for something like that? She wouldve known Jeremy was dead instead of dancing with him, surely? Aw well

Elijah looked gorgeous as per usual I love you

Im really gutted with the Tyler scenes. I thought it would be more intresting than him just dancing with Caroline. I wanted more drama. There was loads of spoilers about him getting angry about Caroline wearing klaus' dress, but i guess they were liesssss. Im really really really gutted with that though, i wanted more of my baby Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:01 pm

I liked the episode but overall thought it was pretty meh and boring. Plus it also moved pretty fast, and I'm kinda over the Silas impersonating others thing already. If he's around s5 I hope that doesn't become his shtick. Anyway....

Damon getting hurt was so overblown that when I saw the actual scene I laughed, then said that was it? I'm also over Damon's insecurities being brought up every episode, just like I'm over Silas impersonation everyone. Her hitting him where it hurts was really good though, and I actually loved how she used the sire bond, and said what they had was a one night stand. off!Elena is really vicious when she wants to be, lol. I also loved Damon calling her a bitch.

off!Elena hardly hurt Stefan at all, so that part of the spoiler was a lie. All she gave him was one word answers and that's it, then said what heart. I thought more could have been done, but meh I didn't really care whether she hurt him or not. I laughed at Stefan's attempts to do whatever he was trying to do to her though, as well as her blank stares while he did it. Reminded me of 4x02 with the touching thing in the woods while hunting Bambi. Got a laugh out of me. *Shrug*

off!Elena was awesome tonight, I loved her in this episode like I loved her in the others. Like I said, she's vicious when she chooses to be. Her compelling April to vote Rebekah prom queen was hilarious, as was her smashing her head against a table, then biting her and saying she should have listened when she told her to vote for Rebekah. As someone who thinks April is almost as useless as Stefan, I wanted her to die, so I was mad when Rebekah healed her. What is April's purpose? The only relevant thing she's done all season was undagger Rebekah, and that was in 4x09. Before that she basically was on-screen constantly asking if people had seen Rebekah.

off!Elena was also pretty vicious to Matt and Bonnie as well, so no one was spared from her viciousness except Stefan. Oh, and I love the friendship between Elena and Rebekah, thought it was nice of Elena to compel people to vote for Rebekah lol, and to be willing to go to prom just to make sure Rebekah doesn't use her powers for the one night, so the cure can be given to her and not be used against Elena herself.

I thought Matt was a raging douche to Rebekah for no reason all night, then all of a sudden was nice to her when he needed her to heal April. And I didn't get his "You have to be good to be human" spiel. How is humanity tied to goodness? There's plenty of bad, evil, and corrupt humans in the world, so I didn't get his logic at all. And I didn't get why he was being a douche to Rebekah, she wasn't even doing anything wrong. Can he die? Please?

Bonnie is awesome, nuff said. So her expression powers gives her the ability to heal herself? That. Is. Awesome. And how badass was it when she threw Elena off her, gave her that kick-ass witchy migraine, healed herself, then turned up the witchy migraine more? At first I was confused by the blood Elena was spitting up, but am I to assume it was because of the witchy migraine? That was a seriously powerful migraine she gave off!Elena, especially if it caused her to spit up blood. off!Elena is lucky the Salvatores came when they did, because it was about to be Game. Over. for her. Man, TMF better watch out if Bonnie ever went dark and became their enemy.

I loved the stuff with Jeremy and Bonnie, until it turned out to be Silas playing her. I'm also glad she's not letting him manipulate her anymore, and stood up for herself. I hope Bonnie keeps her expression powers after this season, because she is seriously badass. And LOL at the end with Bonnie and Silas. So dude is ugly and he wants to die because no one will laugh him with a face like he has? Lmao. He has the cure, why don't he just use it and kill himself?

Silas impersonated 4 people right? Stefan, Damon(off-screen), Jeremy, and Rebekah. At first I thought Jeremy was just Bonnie dreaming, but then it turned out to be Silas and I was like oh, lol didn't see that coming. Then when he impersonated Stefan I thought it was really Stefan, because that is something Stefan would say to Damon. I also got played by him impersonating Rebekah, because I thought if she wanted the cure bad enough she would indeed lie about the night. I mean, what would Klaus do? She could have just took it as soon as she got it from Elijah, then left town. So I thought it was her. I laughed when Elijah got played though.

And now, I feel sorry for Silas. All he wants to do is die and he has the cure now, so all he needs is for the veil to be destroyed. I don't get why TMF wouldn't help him, since he's not really a villain? All he wants to do is die, he's not purposely trying to hurt anyone. And he easily could have slaughtered all of them if he wanted to. And is there any proof that the dead would come back if the veil is destroyed? I thought once the veil is destroyed the supernatural on the side of the veil would automatically cross over? But anyway, If someone else ends up taking the cure, I can see Silas being pissed he has to keep living while being ugly, and trying to get revenge on TMF. That's if someone else takes the cure, since it's in Silas's possession now.

Why didn't Elijah just give the cure to Rebekah? She's his sister, why make her jump through hoops proving herself? And LOL at Klaus whining the whole episode because he didn't get his way. God, this guy is annoying, him leaving for the spinoff can't come quickly enough for me. Also LOL at Elijah being utterly unafraid of Klaus or his threats, he just kinds of pets his head and laughs at him basically.

And once again, LOL at Caroline coming to dude for a dress. Klaroline is so utterly lame, and Klaus is so utterly lame for even having dresses and stuff in his closet in the first place. Caroline couldn't have just compelled a shop owner into giving her another dress? Why was her going to Klaus needed?

I was glad Tyler was back, but at first I thought he was Silas. Glad it was actually him though. I liked the dance him and Caroline had at the house though, it was a sweet moment for forwood. Hope Tyler comes back permanently once Klaus and his family leaves for NO.

I loved Caroline and Elena's frienemies dynamic, especially since the show loves to pretend they are the bestest friends ever. off!Elena stealing her dress was hilarious to me, as was Caroline almost calling her a bitch. I loved Elena's line about how she thought she would do the dress some justice lol.

Overall I liked the episode but it was pretty boring and meh at parts. I loved the off!Elena viciousness, games, shenanigans, and her trying to kill people lol. Also loved her and Rebekah's friendship, think it's awesome she befriended Rebekah. I'm also glad Rebekah finally made it to a dance, and she didn't die or it wasn't cancelled. Progress, Rebekah. The shipping stuff was overblown, and wasn't as bad as it was made out to be in the reviews and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:54 pm

Off!Elena is so lame and stupid and got exactly what she deserved. Like really, you know that Bonnie put Klaus, a 1000 year old vampire, on his knees with the flick of her hand. Kol tried to kill her and you know that Bonnie put a halt to that as well. I thought it was hilarious and was singing praises, especially after what she said to Bonnie. Off!Elena makes no sense at all to me. She says it's Bonnie's fault because didn't bring Jer back, yet she is trying to stop her from doing so. Where is the logic.

And did anyone else notice that April told Rebekah that she couldn't be compelled because she drinks vervain tea, yet when Elena bit her she didn't get affected by the blood? Where is the continuity in this show.

While, I do think Matt was a bit harsh with Rebekah I don't understand why so many people are turning on him because of it. Rebekah would have been the cause of his death had it not been for SE. So, he owes Rebekah nothing, no nice words or no courtesy, IMO. He had never seen her do anything nice or good. So, when she asked him, he gave his honest opinion and she didn't want to hear it then she shouldn't have asked, IMO. I love Rebekah and felt sorry for her, but I'm not mad at Matt for it. It's so funny to me that in general this fandom excuses other characters for being a dick and then needing a favor from that person but soon as a "good guy/girl" does it they get hate for it.
The one thing that annoyed me with Matt is him tying humanity to goodness, because ummm that's not right at all. Otherwise, I loved Matt this episode.

And I think Elijah wanted to test Rebekah so that she will see what she will be losing out on. And wanting to make sure it was really what she wanted and that she wouldn't regret it because once she took the cure it's never any going back to being an Original.

I don't think the migraine made Elena spit up blood because she was spitting up blood before Bonnie migrained her. I think it was Bonnie's blood that made her throw up. Either Bonnie is on vervain or Bonnie is just even more awesome than we thought with this expression stuff.

Silas did impersonate 4 people. I loved how Silas!Stefan told Damon to stay away from his witch. I definitely think something is going to go down with Bonnie and Damon in the finale. Silas is now the 3rd person to connect Bonnie to Damon. Shane, Vaughn, and Silas all used Damon to get to Bonnie in some way or another. It was odd that Silas said that to him because Bonnie had nothing to do with Damon most of the episode.

Silas isn't taking the cure yet because he is waiting for the veil to be opened so he can reunite with his OTL and I imagine that he doesn't just want to die and go to the Other Side where Qetsiyah is as well. I thought I was the only person that felt bad for Silas. He really isn't hurting anyone or going around killing innocent people he just wants to reunite with his OTL. The MF gang though, I understand why they don't want the veil open and feel that Silas is a threat because if the veil is open imagine how many supernaturals are going to be out killing humans for revenge and to feed and not mention will be after them.

Anyways, I really enjoyed the episode.


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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:53 pm

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And did anyone else notice that April told Rebekah that she couldn't be compelled because she drinks vervain tea, yet when Elena bit her she didn't get affected by the blood? Where is the continuity in this show.
Ooooh i forgot about that! Suspect well noticed kray! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:59 pm

Can't turn against someone I've not cared about/for to begin with. So yes, I thought he was being a raging douche for no reason. He has the right to talk to Rebekah however he wants to, and act however he wants to with her, but don't treat her like she's the most despicable person ever then beg for her help later, wtf. If he really felt that way why not get someone else? If she's so horrible why turn to her for help? He's a dumbass, and his whole humanity =/= goodness was laughable, since, like I said, there are bad, evil humans in the world, and TMF themselves have done some morally fucked up things, Matt included. Fall back.

re: the blood Elena was throwing up. I don't know how true this is, but someone on the other boards posted this thing, carina basically said the sire bond was the cause of off!Elena spitting up blood, because of Damon's "Don't eat the prom queen" comment. Like I said, I don't know how true this is, or if carina actually knows or is guessing, but now there's speculation that the bond is back and caused her to throw up the blood. I thought it was because Bonnie was choking her, but carina said it's the bond.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:31 pm

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I really do like Matt though, but he's hardly relevant to any sl really.

This is what you said about Matt. So that whole paragraph was irrelevant because you contradicted yourself.

And anyways I was not talking specifically about you. If you had read what I said, I said that in General the fandom does this type of thing. Meaning the overall fans of TVD, not one specific person because I had been seeing tons of Matt hate and that is what I was talking about, you are the one taking it as such. So you can miss me with the attitude about it. And for the record it wasn't like Matt said I hate you now help me. He even helped her fulfill her high school prom wish and danced with her. And then like a stand up human being he admitted that he was wrong and that he was a bit harsh with her. Unlike some other characters on this show who would never do that.

As for the blood stuff. That is possible, I did see that theory floating around tumblr, but I did not know it was fact.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:16 pm

lol. Ouch. You got me. Except, you didn't. If you had quoted the whole post you would have seen I was bitching about how Tyler got ran off the show, but useless characters like Matt and April are still taking up screentime. There's several posts where I bitch about him being useless and serving exactly 0 purposes in this show. So while I may like Matt, I'm not invested in his character or would care at all if he died, hence my saying that I don't care about him. So how did I contradict myself?

And yeah, I'm pretty sure I did read your post and I replied to it with my opinion. And attitude? LOL you're the one with the attitude because I stated my opinion, so yeah, fall back.

Matt sure wasn't a "Stand up human being" the whole night. I didn't see him talking and acting that way towards Damon, but he acts like he could barely stand to be in the same room next to Rebekah. Why wasn't he acting like that towards Damon if it was because Rebekah tried to kill him? Damon tried several times. Should I put IMO or JMO or do you understand that this is just my opinion? Anyway...

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:34 pm

Actually it is a contradiction because just because you say someone is useless, it doesn't negate the fact that you liked this person. Like I said miss with that. And as always you take a piece of what I say and twist my words. I never had an attitude with you cause I was not talking to or about you with my comment.

But I'm not about to go back and forth with you because all you do is twist what I say anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:47 pm

Uh, I'm pretty sure I said I like the character but I'm not invested in him, but whatever. What did I twist? You said he was acting that way because Rebekah tried to kill him, well so did Damon. Where was the attitude towards Damon? Rebekah even apologized for it way back in the beginning of the season, said she wasn't trying to kill him and was trying to kill Elena so her family could survive and wouldn't have to run. She even tried to make up for it in those earlier episodes too.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:02 am

So because someone apologizes after trying to kill you then you must forgive them and be their friend? I don't think so. Like I said he owed Rebekah nothing. And then he basically apologized for how he was acting. He isn't a perfect human being and he judged her harshly and he was sorry for that. My point was that people are giving Matt hate, when their faves have done a lot worse. Not recognizing where he apologized for being harsh to her, but instead choosing to focus on just the bad.

And, I said he doesn't like her because he almost caused his death, not that she tried to particularly kill him. And I also said he had never seen Rebekah do anything good. And yes she brought him a car and apologized but that was the very least she could have done, she owed him that. How can you expect him to just be nice to her when all he has seen and heard about is the bad things she has done. And as for Damon the difference is that Damon has never gone out of his way to get Matt's opinion of him. From the conversation Matt had with Elena in 4x12 or whatever, he certainly doesn't have a good opinion of Damon either.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:02 am

Yup, exactly. Forgive and forget. Exactly, it's not like he's perfect and hasn't done some morally fucked up things himself, to protect his "family" and those he care for, so why was he judging her for something he himself has done?

I never said he had to be nice though, he could have avoided her or ignored her did whatever he wanted. Like I said before, he could behave towards her anyway he wanted, but don't ask her for help after being a douche to her. That was the extent of my problem with his little attitude.

Yeah, an opinion of Damon but I didn't see him acting like a douche to Damon. LOL she asked if Matt could see her as a human, and he started going on about how goodness is tied to humanity, so that does that mean Matt is a horrible person too, because he does morally questionable things too?
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:07 am

As usual, you are missing the point. I'm done with it because obviously you just don't get it.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:11 am

I don't know why klaus keeps giving ultimatum to tyler instead of jus killing him when he has the chance. Is he worried of wat will happen to his relationship with caroline?IDK. May be the show could have not have klaus figure out tyler and that way we might actually believe that klaus indeed wants tyler dead.

OOh and silas was like frankenstien at the end of the show. Can't wait to see his true form.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:29 am

The Tyler stuff is just plain ridiculous. I really thought he was going to kill Tyler this time though. I hate how they have Tyler look so weak against Klaus when every one else can stand up to him. It sucks.

And Aoshi, people on tumblr was referring to Silas and Bonnie as Beauty and the Beast. I feel bad for Silas though. He really isn't this horrible monster. What he wants to do is pretty insane and thoughtless because he will die and leave hell on Earth. But his reasoning makes it so tragic for him.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:43 pm

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As usual, you are missing the point. I'm done with it because obviously you just don't get it.

lol I'm just fucking with you. I just think Matt was being a douche for no reason, but I got what you was saying.

But in regards to the sire bond being back or whatever, people are taking it as fact or whatever because carina said it, so it must be true. IDK, I looked at the scene, and it looked like it was Bonnie causing it. Because while Bonnie was healing her neck she had her hands in that gesture that shows she was using her magic, and I think she was choking Elena, which caused the blood stuff, then she really started in on her. It might be true that the sire bond is back, but I don't get how just because carina said so it makes it 100% true. It could just be speculation on her part, or her opinion. But whateves I guess lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:31 pm

It's cool. Just seemed like you were being extra harsh on Matt, by wanting him to die now. It's all good though.

But, umm I haven't seen that spoiler from Carina do you have a link? If it was from Carina's chat sessions then it was probably her speculation. I just don't see how it was the sire bond that made her spit up the blood because at that point she was not showing any emotions and didn't have her humanity on. She didn't show emotions until Bonnie had her on the ground and she was crying for her to stop. I still think its the expression magic that did it. Like after Bonnie completed the expression triangle, she may have inherited some extra kind of powers to protect her from vampires.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:26 pm

Well, that part was serious, I did want him to die because he was being a unnecessary douche to Rebekah, and whatever else I said about Matt was serious, but after my second post I was just fucking with you after, but I understood what you was saying, but I was just messing around with you and instigating the arguing more and more lol. But yeah, I understood what you was saying, but I thought he was lame.

I don't have twitter so I hadn't seen the tweet myself, but others on the DE forum posted that carina said Elena threw the blood back up because Damon told her not to eat the prom queen, so when Bonnie was kicking her ass Elena felt emotion and the sire bond came back. That's what everyone thinks now, that since she felt emotion the sire bond came back in that moment and forced her to throw the blood up because Damon told her not to eat the prom queen. I still think it was Bonnie and her magic as well, but I'm not sure if carina's tweet was a spoiler or her speculation, but everyone is taking it as a spoiler I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:30 pm

I knew that Jeremy was really Silas, but he had me fooled when he pretended to be Stefan and Rebekah. I also thought that Tyler was Silas at first.

I was cheering Bonnie on when she fought back at Elena, i wanted her to kill Elena, i hate her now.

That's a good point about April telling Rebekah she drinks vervain tea, but then it didn't affect Elena when she bit April.

I really thought that Klaus was gonna kill Tyler, was so relieved when he didn't.

And honestly, so far Silas doesn't seem like that big an evil that he was made out to be by Shane and Kol.

But yeah, episode was ok. Loved Damon calling Elena a bitch. She really doesn't deserve Damon. Hate how JP is using the sire bond as an excuse for the Delena we got at the beginning of S4 and now Elena is being a bitch to Damon again.

And yeah, Elena blaming Bonnie for not bringng Jeremy back, then telling Rebekah that she doesn't want him coming back, er, make up your mind!

Love Damon's line to Stefan in the woods about "let me guess, a very handsome man came up claiming to be me" or something. Lol, love Damon!

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:43 pm

SnatchEatErase wrote:
Well, that part was serious, I did want him to die because he was being a unnecessary douche to Rebekah, and whatever else I said about Matt was serious, but after my second post I was just fucking with you after, but I understood what you was saying, but I was just messing around with you and instigating the arguing more and more lol. But yeah, I understood what you was saying, but I thought he was lame.

I don't have twitter so I hadn't seen the tweet myself, but others on the DE forum posted that carina said Elena threw the blood back up because Damon told her not to eat the prom queen, so when Bonnie was kicking her ass Elena felt emotion and the sire bond came back. That's what everyone thinks now, that since she felt emotion the sire bond came back in that moment and forced her to throw the blood up because Damon told her not to eat the prom queen. I still think it was Bonnie and her magic as well, but I'm not sure if carina's tweet was a spoiler or her speculation, but everyone is taking it as a spoiler I guess.

That is just speculation. Not a confirmed rumor. I think it was the Expression.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x19 [Pictures of You]   Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:53 pm

KrayBaby wrote:
The Tyler stuff is just plain ridiculous. I really thought he was going to kill Tyler this time though. I hate how they have Tyler look so weak against Klaus when every one else can stand up to him. It sucks.
I think that the writers hate tyler for some reason, they are so horrible to him. I wish he could stand up for himself more because its so un-tyler-like for him to just take all this shit and not do anything about it. Ahhh this storyline is so irritating!

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