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PostSubject: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Thu May 09, 2013 12:19 pm

Discuss tonight's all new episode of The Vampire Diaries.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Thu May 09, 2013 7:27 pm

Can't wait until tonights episode
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Thu May 09, 2013 10:04 pm

I am completely speechless right now about tonights episode.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Fri May 10, 2013 12:51 am

Yes. I'm still so sad about it. I can't believe Bonnie died and the moment she realized she was dead. OMG. Why?

I know it's a strong possibility that she will return, but it still sucks especially considering how or why she died.

The Bamon fans have a theory that DAmon will save her with the cure. Alaric's "get the girl" comment, kinda seemed a bit foreshadowing to Bamon. Because what does getting the girl and curing Elena have to do with each other? Especially when Damon thinks that human Elena would just run back to Stefan?

But at the same time I though a vampire was suppose to get the cure? Unless Bonnie figures out how to make another? Idk. So confusing.

I will say though that if Bonnie dies permanently I will not watch another episode of this show.

Oh and the Jerlena scenes. I cried so hard.

EDIT: Just read that Bonnie stays dead til the end of the finale. I can't, I am not playing if she doesn't come back, I'm done.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Fri May 10, 2013 1:52 am

I know how you feel if Bonnie stays dead I'm not watching anymore.Screw that I knew when she was involving sprit,expression,and dark magic something bad was going to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Fri May 10, 2013 2:33 pm

I liked the episode, had some great moments there. Ughh, but hopefully this is the very last time we see Lexi, she seriously is starting to annoy me because every season we see her in some capacity, whether it's a flashback or her actually coming back as a ghost or whatever, like last season. Can I not have to see her next season? Please? Same for Kol, keep dude dead, because I don't see the hype. I like him and all, him and Rebekah are my fave Originals, but no coming back please. JP shouldn't have killed him in the first place if she's just going to bring dude back for real, and let him stick around or whatever. Anyway, on to my thoughts about the episode.

I loved that Elena was all obsessed with killing Kat, but I didn't get how she got the upperhand with her later in the episode. It seemed like she could have easily killed Kat without much of a fight. She was manhandling her and IDK, I don't get how Kat came off that weak like she just became a vampire a few days ago or something. Oh, and I LOL'ed at Elena punching Stefan. Wish she knocked his ass to the floor lol. I also laughed when she staked Damon because he wouldn't help her though, too. I also loved her apologizing to Bonnie and Stefan(ugh) as well. Since Elena is supposed to have another "epic" showdown with Kat for the finale, I hope they actually forking portray Kat as a stronger, faster, older vamp than Elena, because seriously? Come on.

Also, Elena and Jeremy was awesome! Glad he was back, even if it's only for one or two episodes. Jeremy protecting Elena from Kol? Awesome! Elena finally got to see her brother again and get that closure. I laughed though that Jeremy had a crossbow with him when he came back from the veil. And for the record, the Kol/Elena fight is how the Elena/Kat fight should have happened, but it seemed like Elena kicked her ass with ease. But yeah, anyway, I loved their hugs and when they said goodbye to one another.

Dalaric was back! Team Badass! lol, I loved how Damon wasn't sure it was the real Alaric, and Alaric showed him locker 42 and the liquor and asked if Silas would know about it, then hugged each other. Man, I wish they hadn't killed off Alaric! Also, I laughed that Alaric ships Delena and wants Damon to get the girl. Can Alaric and Jeremy both stay? I miss them so much. One question though, how did Alaric say he got the cure?

Bonnie/Kat was also awesome. Loved how Bonnie linked them together and Kat was bitching the entire time Bonnie was trying to open the veil. Kat bitching about her expensive boots getting messed up because of walking in the mud was hilarious. Bonnie kicked ass this episode, and her and Kat was a great duo lol.

Bonnie/Silas was great. Loved their little showdown, and how apparently he was playing her the entire time. He could still play his little mind games with her, but he made her think he couldn't so she'll do what he wants. Him messing with her mind and impersonating her friends, etc, was also pretty cool. Grams being back was also great, missed her! Glad she helped Bonnie to realize she could defeat Silas herself with expression. Bonnie defeating him was easy though, so does that mean this isn't the last we've seen of him? Also, Bonnie died? WTF? At first I thought it was Silas playing games again, but apparently she's really dead and will be attending graduation as a ghost, and will be permanently dead at the end of the finale? But what about the spoiler for s5, where her, Elena, and Caroline are roommates? She's going to stick around as a ghost or something?

Rebekah/Matt was also great. Loved how Rebekah tended to him when Kol threw a broken bottle shrd at him. And why was Kol being a dick to Rebekah? She was genuinely happy to see him, and was teary eyed, and he was being a jerk to her. The supposed Original family sucks balls. And Rebekah/Matt kisses in the promo for the finale, so yay! lol. And aww at Matt not wanting to heal via vamp blood because people tend to die and become vamps a lot in MF. He wants to graduate human.

So yeah, enjoyed the episode and can't wait for the finale! But please, for the love of god, please don't let Kol be the one ghost who'll supposedly get a do over and get to stick around. Please!
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Fri May 10, 2013 10:32 pm

The episode as a whole was really great, I loved that Bonnie was pretty much the lead in it. But obviously, Bonnie being my favorite character, the episode put me in a crappy mood, TBH.

I will say I am in love with Mabekah. They are perfect together. Their scenes are just omg. Loved every moment and happy Rebekah will kiss Matt. I really hate that she is leaving. I think that they are the duo leaving for the summer.

Jerlena scenes, like I said earlier was another highlight for me. They were really well done. I cried so hard, I think after 2x18 this is the only episode that just really made me cry. When she was at his grave and then when he went up to her. Omg. It was such an amazing moment.

I liked that she apologized, well not fully. Especially to Bonnie, she should have just said it. There shouldn't have been no "I don't know what to say" about it. But I'm glad the writers had her to acknowledge her shittiness. I just hope Caroline gets an apology as well.

As for the other dead people. I don't give a shit about Kol, never have. I don't give a shit about Alaric, haven't since season 2. I pray that neither of them are the permanent resurrections. But I will say that I liked the scene when Damon saw him for the first time. And as for Kol, I can understand why he was a bitch to his sister. Like he said, she didn't mourn his death. She was sad for 2 seconds and then went traipsing off onto an island with his killers. I love Bex, but I can understand why Kol was bitter, no one gave a shit about him. He is annoying though, geez.

I liked Lexi's return, this is the first time I have really liked her since season 1. I was happy Stefan got to see her. It was another really nice moment because he seemed so disappointed that everyone else got to see someone special except him. Grams, it was nice seeing her as well helping Bonnie. I wasn't surprised to see her there though, since she always makes appearances lol.

I don't care about anyone returning at this point except Bonnie. I know it won't be her though. I kinda feel like the spell worked and she brought Jer back to life, but died in the process. It will be the only way that she would be able to be in season 5 if the veil is lifted, since Jer has a direct link to ghosts.

It's so weird that Bonnie died, at first I didn't get too emotional because I figured oh she will be back to life the next episode and then after that article from E! came out, I freaked. My only hope is that Damon dies too and he and Bonnie are stuck on the Other Side, like what happened in the books.

Bonnie is my favorite character, Tyler was my second. If neither of them return next season, you guys can count me out.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Sat May 11, 2013 7:32 am

Bonnie's dead??????

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Sat May 11, 2013 7:45 pm

Why don't you think Bonnie will be back next season Kray? Or will come back from the dead? Next season she's apparently roommates with Elena and Caroline, and there is supposed to be a time jump at the beginning of s5, so maybe she'll be back and they'll show how during the time jump?
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Sun May 12, 2013 4:18 pm

If there is a time-jump I would not really put any hope on them explaining what happened during that period. It is too complex for the TVD writers, lets be fair Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Sun May 12, 2013 4:22 pm

Eugh I cannot believe they brought Alaric back either. Time to let him REALLY rest me, thinks.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Mon May 13, 2013 1:50 pm

End to silas was disappointing and un-convincing. Yeah, bonnie is a powerful witch but silas could torment the likes of klaus and bonnie would have reached the state of death if she had used the power of 100 dead witches to kill klaus at the end of season 2. And now she jus dessicates silas????? I would have believed it if she had shown some loss of strength in the process. Yeah, she did lose her life only cuz she stretched too far and not as an effect of fighting silas.

I can't believe the writers would actually kill a character like bonnie. I mean , if they brought her back from the dead cuz she is a witch, would not other witches too have the same power. Esther, anyone????? IDK, I never thought elena would be a vampire. So, i guess anything goes now.

I loved how caroline called rebekah "bitch". That was funny. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Mon May 13, 2013 2:30 pm

Wow. Woowwwwwwwww. Brilliant episode affraid just woww Smile

I dont even know where to start haha, DALARIC. Team Badass are BACK! I am so happy Ric is back, i didnt realised how much i missed him until i saw dalaric scenes again, god ive missed them so badly! And lexi's back, yay! I can feel a lexi/caroline fallout coming soon though? I think caroline is gonna feel replaced Neutral

I actually cried when Elena and Jeremy reunited, aw man, so so cute Smile and the beremy scene was really nice aswell aww I love you

I dont really want Kol back because i think he'll get killed in the next one judging by the promo, so its kinda pointless? But i know there were Twitter campaigns and stuff so he might not, idk Embarassed

Elena is really confusing me with all her emotion changes, i was so confused when she was still being bitchy to Caroline. It was horrible when Caroline was trying to cut her wrists off eww Sad

It's such a shame about Bonnie, i thought it was over then BAM, Bonnie drops to the floor. I think she'll be okay because she is with her grams, well i hope she is Rolling Eyes

RIP Bonnie No

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Mon May 13, 2013 2:49 pm

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I dont even know where to start haha, DALARIC. Team Badass are BACK! I am so happy Ric is back, i didnt realised how much i missed him until i saw dalaric scenes again, god ive missed them so badly! And lexi's back, yay! I can feel a lexi/caroline fallout coming soon though? I think caroline is gonna feel replaced Neutral


You think the veil is gonna stay lifted for the rest of time? That would be a huge imbalance to nature and witches would not allow that.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Mon May 13, 2013 4:51 pm

Josh, I don't know if if they are going to bring Bonnie back yet or not. I mean there is a strong possibilty, but Bonnie will still be dead at the end of the episode per spoiler. My only hope is that Damon dies in the finale and they are stuck on the Other Side for a few episodes in season 5.

I've calmed down since my previous posts, and I do think she will come back, but I can't count on that until I see what happens in the finale. I just hate how they are doing this. She constantly gets beat up on by the writers and according to the new clip she isn't even going to tell her friends that she is dead so that they can enjoy graduation together. It's just messed up to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Tue May 14, 2013 1:44 pm

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If there is a time-jump I would not really put any hope on them explaining what happened during that period. It is too complex for the TVD writers, lets be fair Rolling Eyes

LOL, this is truth. Did you guys hear Jose molina or whatever his name is quit? He was supposed to go to the spinoff and help JP write TO, but apparently he tweeted that he's done with TVD after this season is over.

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Josh, I don't know if if they are going to bring Bonnie back yet or not. I mean there is a strong possibilty, but Bonnie will still be dead at the end of the episode per spoiler. My only hope is that Damon dies in the finale and they are stuck on the Other Side for a few episodes in season 5.

I've calmed down since my previous posts, and I do think she will come back, but I can't count on that until I see what happens in the finale. I just hate how they are doing this. She constantly gets beat up on by the writers and according to the new clip she isn't even going to tell her friends that she is dead so that they can enjoy graduation together. It's just messed up to me.

TBH, I don't even get why graduation is still important to either of these people, considering the end of the freaking world could be happening the same day. But whatever, I guess. As for Bonnie, I've seen speculation that she'll be possessed by Q or Silas will be posing as her during s5. And I think there was a interview with KG, and she said there's hope and all that stuff.

I think it would be cool if Damon dies and is on the other side with Bonnie, and everyone has to rally together to help them or something. But ughh, that would mean sitting through SE scenes lol. And wouldn't that be a repeat of s3 but in reverse? Which shouldn't surprise me, since before s4 JP said something like the last three seasons of the series being the first three in reverse, with different outcomes and some other bullshit like that. Which I took to mean they're just going to redo all the scenarios for the first three seasons, but have them be different and flipped around. SMH.
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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Wed May 15, 2013 12:01 pm

Jp is pissing me off tbh. Really pissed that Bonnie is dead. She's destroyed this show, storylines since second half of season 3 are messed up. No

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Wed May 15, 2013 12:51 pm

No, I haven't heard that he quit. Maybe he was meaning that he was done with TVD after this season because he will be working on TO next season? Idk.

I mean I have seen all of the speculation. I mean all, I honestly don't want a Qetsiyah possession though. I do think they will bring her on next season. I was thinking maybe something like the 2 people will die next episode, will be stuck on the other side for a few episodes next season and trying to find a way out and then maybe when they find a way out of it, Qetsiyah sneaks out with them or something.

Yea, I know Kat said their is hope at the con this past weekend, but what else is she suppose to say? She can't confirm nor deny whether she is coming back next season or not yet. Don't get me wrong I think she will come back, but I'm just fed up with her story line. All season she is fighting for what she wants and then at the last minute it's oh, I have to do this for ELENA. not herself, which would have made her death a bit more plausible. It really better be Jeremy that's resurrected because if not that means she really died for no good reason. I definitely don't want her to be a ghost stuck in MF next season, if so they can keep that. I just really want for Bonnie to have her own voice and make her own decisions based on what she wants and/or needs. Basically, be more selfish like the others.

Well, I like SE so I don't mind lol. I am curious to who she picks though.

Who do you guys think will get the cure? I don't think it will be any of the main 3. We know it's not Damon, per spoiler. I don't see Elena or Stefan getting it either. I had a thought that maybe Damon gives it to Abby so she can become a witch again and help Bonnie close the veil or something. I know she is in the episode because of that BTS still of her at graduation.

Josh what are the DE people saying about what happens to Damon? Does a ghost bit him or what? I know the spoiler says it's like what happened to him with the werewolf bite, but I hope it's not a werewolf bite because that's boring and predictable. I do think he is going to die. His life is in danger every season, so I think this time it will actually happen.

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PostSubject: Re: Episode 4x22 [The Walking Dead]   Fri May 17, 2013 12:48 am

@Kray: At first they was speculating Mason or someone comes back and bites him. Then someone suggested one of the dead hybrids. I and others thought maybe Connor somehow injects him with the werewolf venom/blood or whatever from Tyler.
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